BFRO #32251: Possible encounter disturbs a camper in a high country forest
📍 Location
Mogollon Rim, Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest, near FR 300, Payson, AZ
Specific Location: Forest Road FR 300 vicinity, Mogollon Rim
Coordinates: 34.15000, -111.32000
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34.1500°, -111.3200°
📝 Description
It�s taken me a long time to write this report because shortly after the incident, I managed to convince myself that it couldn�t have been a bigfoot. A few months later, a friend had a nearly identical incident at the same location which made me reconsider. As a mechanical engineer, I am trained in the hard sciences and as such, I am a scientist. I really don�t believe in something unless there is hard evidence or the scientific community is in agreement. Since the incident and my friend�s incident I have been doing a lot of research and feel that there is substantial evidence that a forest primate exists in North America. As a scientist, my previous position was that something could exist but there was not enough evidence to prove it. I do admit that I have always had an interest in the bigfoot phenomenon and knew some things about it like wood knocking, howls, etc. I also took a natural anthropology class in college. My teacher was one of the most famous anthropologist of our time and I learned well about all of the primates, the australopithecines , early hominids and of course gigantopithicus. My point is that I am an intelligent person who had an informed skeptical position concerning the bigfoot phenomenon but has come to believe that the forests are inhabited by either an early hominid or a great ape, or something in between. I am known for my situational memory and feel that my remembrance of the incident has not diminished. I have told my story many times and every time I get goose bumps. It was Aug of 2010. My wife, brother, father-in-law and I were camping on the Mogollon Rim. We were in my favorite spot in a remote location of the Apache Sitgreaves Forest that I had been frequenting for about two years. We were not doing any particular activities like shooting or hunting, we were not riding quads or anything. It was a two night camping weekend for us and for the most part we were just hiking and relaxing and observing elk. The oddest thing about this weekend was that there was almost nobody in this area of the forest, a lot of people avoid camping during the monsoon although this weekend was basically dry. The closest campsite was about 2 miles away. It was occupied by two older couples whom I had spoke to earlier that day of the incident. The other notable observation was that it was a pitch black, moonless night in which it must have been overcast because I could only see about 3 to 5 feet. In retrospect, I cannot imagine these two elderly couples creeping 2 miles into my camp, on foot, without lights, just to disturb us in our sleep. Also, Arizonans are known for their gun toting, it is never wise to approach someone�s camp unannounced especially in the middle of a pitch black night. I have been an outdoorsman since I can remember and am an accomplished hunter. I am familiar with the Arizona fauna and the sounds they make. At about 12 AM, I was awoken to the sound of two sticks cracking together near my RV trailer. The knocking sounded as if somebody had two girthy sticks, maybe about 2 inches in diameter, and they were banging them together at a perfect 2 second interval. Sometimes the sticks sounded a little different as if a knot had been struck but the timing was never flawed. Now a lot of people say �well that could be an elk�s antlers or some bird cracking his beak�, but I have never heard a known animal make this sound, let alone in perfect repetition for the duration that I heard it. But that wasn�t the strangest part; the sound was translating through the forest quickly and without making additional sounds. The sound was emanating from an area on the backside of my trailer and receding away. It would then come closer and recede again. This was happening over and over. I would say that it was probably about 20 to 30 yards at the closest and went out an additional 50 to 70 yards away. My campsite was near a primitive road and the sound seemed to parallel the road but I can�t be sure.After lying in bed, listening to this for about 2 minutes, I decided that I needed to do something about this thing that was disturbing my camp. Familiar with the observance that bigfoots knocked wood, a bigfoot did come to mind instantly, but I felt that as the patriarch, I needed to investigate and protect my family. My family members were all three asleep and I believe there may have been some snoring going on which may have given the creature some comfort to continue doing this. I was sleeping in my underwear and decided to get dressed. I got dressed more quietly than ever before or since and I am certain that I made no sound that the creature could hear. I did not turn on any lights and was absolutely silent, feeling around for my clothes, shoes and pistol.Once dressed, I moved silently to the trailer door, being careful not to shake the trailer or create any noises. This was actually quite easy because there is a door adjacent to my bed. I waited until the cracking sound had receded as far away as it
🔍 Circumstances
Not really
🌤️ Weather Conditions
12AM, Pitch Black, 60s Cool Dry Weather
ℹ️ Additional Details
12AM, Pitch Black, 60s Cool Dry Weather
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Case Information
- Case ID
- cmiy0bxak00as8fysbqrly4lp
- Primary Source
- BFRO
- Added to Map
- December 9, 2025
- Last Updated
- December 10, 2025